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2022 Governing Body Update #7
In the first minute of video, Stephen Lett says that the house-to-house resumed as of September 01, 2022.
a friend told me that this week a jw knocked on her door.
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is house to house back now?.
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=docid-702022021_1_VIDEO
In the first minute of video, Stephen Lett says that the house-to-house resumed as of September 01, 2022.
i have been out for a long time now and have kept busy.
but tonight my jw mom asked me what is happening in norway.
so i researched and wow!
Welcome back! Does it surprise you that since the Watchtower Society claim that ''they are no part of the world,'' ( refuse to vote, sign up for military service, salute the flag ) now want monies that come from a government?
Since you were a former elder, did you see any financial dishonesty from the Watchtower Society?
https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.
08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
Trossamfunnsloven § 6, first comma
If a denomination of religion or of the philosophy of life, or persons who act on behalf of the denomination apply violence or coercion or make threats, violate the rights of children or violate bans of discrimination rooted in law, or in other ways seriously violate the rights or freedom of others, the denomination can be denied the government grants in whole or in part. Government grants can also be denied in whole or in part if the denomination calls for or supports the violations that are mentioned in this comma.
Decision
The County Governor understands the concept of negative social control as different forms of supervision, pressure, threats, and coercion with the purpose of causing persons to live according to the norms of the family or the group. The characterization of the control is that it is systematic, and it may violate the rights of individuals among other things in connection with the Convention of the Rights of the Child and the Norwegian law.[8]
The denomination describes this practice as a strong form of discipline. Children in the congregation must follow a number of rules, and the consequence of not following them is to be disfellowshipped from the congregation, which means isolation from family and friends who are told to stop keeping company with those who have been disfellowshipped.
It is shown in their comments dated 11.19.2021 in paragraph 19 that the family bonds are not terminated, as long as they live in the same household. However, we understand the situation to be that the child cannot have contact with other close relatives (including grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins) or friends. This is a reaction because the child has violated the own rules of the denomination. We believe that this can be experienced as pressure or coercion in order to cause the child to behave in a certain way. We, therefore, consider the consequence of the violation of the rules as a form of punishment.
On this background, we consider the disfellowshipping of a minor who is a baptized member to be counted as negative social control and a violation of the rights of children according to trossamfunnsloven § 6. According to trossamfunnnsforskriften § 11, first comma a), this can be a reason for denying the denomination the grants.
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
click on closed captions
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
An analysis of the deceptive words of Morris and Pedersen is provided here:
https://avoidjw.org/world/jehovahs-witnesses-norway/
That is a must read for everyone. Great analysis on what's really going on between the Watchtower Society and the Norwegian Government. Great deception on the Watchtower Society's part blaming the Norwegian Government for ''religious persecution.''
As you stated, it's all about the money.
what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.
this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.
she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.
LongHairGal
I’m sorry for her and I am sure there are many Witnesses in the same predicament. She did ALL that work and knocked herself out for a handful of wishes.
Exactly! This was her investment. She was happy in what she was doing! Paradise earth was her return for her investment. We all wasted years and got nothing in return.
HiddlesWife
Now, throughout the course of time--because this all occurred since the later 1980s--she became an RP plus got involved in other VOLUNTARY Borg activities [Need-Greater F.S., Unassigned Territories, various Kingdom Hall Constructions, CAH Tour Guiding, cooking food for various Pioneer Schools, getting parts on her cong's service meetings, CAs and twice in RC dramas, to name A LOT!]. She was happy for a long while (her popularity was skyrocketing to a certain degree as well).
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
DECEMBER 2, 2022
GLOBAL NEWS
So, Tony...Just go away. It's not about the money...or is it? Let's see who wins this fight!
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
If a faith or belief community, or individuals acting on behalf of society, perpetrating violence or coercion, making threats, violating children's rights, violates statutory discrimination bans or otherwise seriously violates the rights and freedoms of others, society can be denied grants or grants can be curtailed. Grants may also be denied or shortened if the community encourages or grants support for violations mentioned in this paragraph.
'' Brothers and sisters, let me be clear and tell the truth for once. Norway refuses to give us $1.6 million dollars, not because of religious discrimination against the Jehovah's Witnesses, but because it states in their documents that ''violating children's rights'' is one of many reasons why they refuse to give us grant money. Just think about it! We baptize 10 year old's and own them the rest of their lives. The Society refuse to give these children ''human rights'' after the are disfellowshipped or disassociate. They have no recourse, but to come back to Jehovah. We have the freedom to take away children's rights. The Norwegian Government has no authority to take away our religious rights, nor refuse to give the Society $1.6 million dollars."
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
According to an overview from the Ministry of Children and Family Affairs, 12,686 grant-counting members were registered in Jehovah's Witnesses in 2021. According to the State Manager, they will now miss NOK 16 million in support.